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Mark Windmill's avatar

I grew up in the Labour Party, father was a Councillor, on election days the Labour Committee Rooms were in our house, I was out leafleting from age 14. This was the 1970s.

I loved the older working class guys who turned up in branch meetings and on election days. They understood the world in a simple way: before WW2 they were made to dig holes and fill them in again in order to get their dole money; after the war they got jobs building Council houses (literally on the same piece of land they dug/filled the holes) and then got to live in those secure homes. An older neighbour on my estate told me this about his own experience.

Later, they knew that the Tories wanted them to work more hours for less pay, while Labour wanted them to get more pay for less hours. So they stuck with Labour. There was not much theory to it. In fact, I don't think they knew any socialist theory, but they knew what politics could deliver for them and they could hold the people they elected to account for it.

I don't think that class-based politics exists any more. Society and culture (including the internet) is more complicated and seems to offer myriad routes through which individuals can independently (apparently at least) make a meaningful life. When so many people understand their lives, and what shapes those lives, in so many varied individualistic ways - what then are we holding politicians to account for?

Yes, all those individuals all still really need good public services, from health to education and social care, policing and justice, un-potholed roads etc. We all need an economy with enough jobs, inflation under control, sustainable energy etc. We really do have 'more in common' ...but when so many people see their lives in such individualistic frames they may just give up on politics, thinking wrongly that it has nothing to do with them.

Sorry if I am stating the blindingly obvious!

Robert Shepherd's avatar

I also think that even if there is a saint who understands all the technical things very well, they run into incentive problem in a different way— those within the system who are not saints may see them as threatening. After all, if “doing things well” isn’t a route to success, and “doing something else” is, someone who does things well is running against the tide of that incentive system.

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